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This latest RuggaMatrix America Podcast sees Bruce Mclane sit down with an all-time great prop and an expert in the art of scrummaging (which is the name of his book): Enrique Topo Rodriguez.

Topo played prop for Argentina, Australia, the South American Jaguares, and late Tahiti. He pulls no punches in talking about the game, the politics within the game, and how to play the game right.

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This is a two-parter. Look for Part 2 in a few days

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